Friday, August 1, 2014

Wife Test: Loyalty

Today marks a special day for the Ironwoods.  Twenty-three years ago today, the future Mrs. Ironwood and I were introduced to each other by a mutual friend.  It wasn’t a carefully-designed attempt to get two like-minded people together.  We were both on the rebound from less-than-stellar long term relationships, and our mutual friend was a bartender. She thought it was an exercise in simple rebound expediency.

The result was the present Ironwood family.  The result of a one-night-stand gone horribly awry.

The reason why our twenty-third anniversary is so important (to me) is because it also marks the point in my life in which Mrs. Ironwood has been in it more than she has been out of it.  As of this point, we have both spent the numerical majority of our lives enjoying each others’ company.  That’s a massive accomplishment in this day and age, one that we are both appreciative of.

I rarely counsel a man to marry, in our present circumstances.  The odds are not in his favor, and barring exceptional circumstances he risks far more than he gains out of the transaction.  The differences between divorce, marital misery, and domestic contentment represent the difference between failure and success, and most men marrying most women are throwing all their chips on black and hoping for the best.  In most cases, the payout is a mediocre marriage to an ambivalent woman undermined by the knowledge that she has clearly settled for her husband.

Every relationship is different.  But the success or failure of a good one is dependent not just on the level of commitment each party demonstrates, but on whether or not they possess the skills needed to negotiate the minefield that is marriage.  “Husband” and “wife” are not just commodities on the MMP, they’re learnable skills and cultivated abilities.  One fault of feminism is its antipathy toward marriage as an institution and its disparaging of the cultivation of those skills that inform a woman’s contribution to the functioning of the marriage. 

In pursuit of corporate achievement or “changing the world”, the women of the last two generations have been woefully unprepared, practically, for the realities of participating in a long-term, committed heterosexual union.  Indeed, any such suggestion – that a woman spend her time and energy preparing for domestic life – has been met with scorn and derision by the feminist community at large.  “Wife” is a title of shame and capitulation to feminism, regardless of what individual feminists may declare.  Cultivating a skillset contributing to a successful marriage is therefore ridiculed by the feminist establishment.

Meanwhile, husbands have gotten a hell of a lot better in developing their skillsets.  The man entering marriage in 2014 (if you can find such a rare and special creature) does so with a much greater depth of experience than his grandfather had.  More than likely he’s mastered (or at least been exposed to) the
domestic chores and childcare responsibilities that the Second Wave feminists complained so bitterly about.

Modern husbands are more hands-on fathers than their sires, more involved in the housekeeping duties and household purchasing decisions, and more socially aware and better-informed than their ancestors.  Men who feel inclined toward marriage and family early have little trouble learning the things they need to, in order to be an effective husband and father.  While that desire is limited to a few, compared to generations past, the men who wish to be good husbands go out of their way to ensure that they can handle whatever might get thrown at their families.  That dedication comes across early on, if you know where to spot it.  There’s a reason that the “good ones” get snatched up early.

My continuing series on discerning the potential of a high-quality wife, Wife Tests, wouldn’t be complete without exploring one of the fundamental factors in the success or failure of a marriage: loyalty.

I do not mean mere fidelity.  Simply not cheating on you is not the best metric for determining a woman’s loyalty to you.  Loyalty, in the marital sense, means unwavering support for your spouse.  That can be difficult, in the face of tough times, and the weak-willed, poor-quality women will quickly start looking around for a more-immediate better deal.  Thanks to feminism, marriage is no longer sufficient insulation from the SMP, which makes it easy for a woman to entertain such ideas at the first hint of trouble.

But you’re going to have trouble in a marriage.  It’s inevitable.  In the process of knitting together two families and two family cultures, establishing proper boundaries and protocols, there will be problems that will challenge the fortitude of any couple.  Until you do, there’s no real way to assess the strength of your union, sadly, and for some whose emotional constitutions are brittle, it doesn’t take much to hit the “this isn’t working” button.  More than one man has been shocked and surprised to hear these words after even a moderate challenge to the marriage.  Another failure of feminism to modern women: the inflated and often unreasonable expectation of marriage.   Marriage is hard work.  If you care about it, you don’t take it pass/fail.

So how does one determine a woman’s loyalty to you before you encounter that Big Event that’s going to give you problems?  It’s difficult.  I’d say a telling factor, however, is just how loyal a woman appears to be to you in a casual circumstance.  It’s hard to construct a situation that tests that, you must rely on observation and pay attention to subtleties.  With Mrs. Ironwood, I can pinpoint the exact moment when she passed the Loyalty Test.

We had been going out for a little over a year when we had the opportunity to go out with another couple, friends of mine from college.  Nothing fancy, just a sit-down dinner in a chain restaurant with a bar.  Bob and Karen had been friends and neighbors of mine for a couple of years during my undergraduate career.  He was a Religious Studies major at Duke, and she was studying Medieval and Renaissance studies.  At that point they were engaged, with Bob having aspirations of a career in law.  At that point, I saw them as the Perfect Couple. 

But when the subject of parenting and fatherhood came up, Karen – who I’d been crushing heavily on since I’d known her, and who knew me as a fairly hapless Beta – was surprised at the future Mrs. Ironwood’s
willingness to “let” me take charge of our future children, if any.  At the time it appeared that she would be the primary breadwinner – my writing career had taken off, but paying gigs were still few and far between.  Therefore our plan was that I would be primary childcare, should we have kids.  That early in our relationship we had already begun seriously evaluating each other for suitability, and had discussed the possibilities even if we hadn’t committed to them.

“What?  You’re actually going to trust Ian with your babies?” Karen asked, aghast at the suggestion.  That was more than a little insulting, on a personal level, but my attraction for her and my respect for Bob had kept me firmly in Beta position.  I was about to joke my way out of it when the future Mrs. I leapt to my defense.

“Are you kidding?  Ian will make an outstanding father!  I’ve never met a man better-prepared emotionally or practically for taking care of his children.  He’s responsible, intelligent, and caring.  Whether or not we’ll stay together or have kids together remains to be seen, but I know for a fact that I would not have any reservations about Ian raising our children!”

Bob quickly changed the subject away from the awkward subject, and dinner continued.  Afterwards, as we were walking back to the car the future Mrs. I reiterated just how upset she was at the suggestion that I was unfit to raise babies with.  It wasn’t just Karen challenging her choice of boyfriend, a catty standard of the Female Social Network, that she was responding to, I realized.  She was genuinely offended that anyone who claimed to be a close friend of mine would make such a horrible (and to her mind unearned)

It wasn’t a big deal to either Karen or Mrs. Ironwood, but it was to me.  It was at that point that I checked the “loyalty” box on the Wife Test.  When your wife defends your character to your closest friends, that’s a pretty profound statement of her belief in you.  I watched more carefully after that, and I was gratified to see her stick up for me in similar situations.  She knew enough not to get entangled with the rough teasing between my brothers and I, but when she told my mother that she was wrong about my inability to handle household finances, for instance, I knew I had a potential keeper. 

While loyalty gets tested in the strangest of ways, but they all revolve around a woman’s unprompted reaction to a perceived attack or injustice on you.  Ideally her response should be independent of her interests, perhaps even against them, in some circumstances. 

If you had to engineer a situation artificially to test her loyalty, consider having one of your (good) friends speak poorly about you behind your back but in her presence, and report what she says.   If she plays along with his downgraded assessment of you, you might have a problem.  If she sticks up for you, you’ve got a loyal one.  

But even that isn’t the ideal test of her loyalty.  Even better if you can hear one of HER good friends launch a catty attack on you.  If she can tell her BFF to shut the hell up because she doesn’t know what she’s talking about, you’ve got a winner.  The woman who will endure someone speaking badly about her mate is one whose loyalty is questionable from the beginning.

The true test, of course, will be when the world is falling down around your ears; your very self-identity is challenged as your life is wracked with the inevitability of misfortune.  A loyal wife will remember that she bet on the horse, not the race, and support you.  If she’s skilled enough she might even know how to do that.  During a true loyalty test, she has a clear choice of a life in support of you and a life not in support of you, and she freely chooses the former not out of obligation or a sense of duty but because she has genuine respect for you in sufficient quantities to invoke her loyalty.

Twenty three years after she saw me reading a book in a bar one night (The Two Towers – I’m a hobbit-head) Mrs. Ironwood is still fiercely loyal of me, and I have taken great pains to vindicate her on the subject of fatherhood and husbandry.  But understand that such loyalty is not monolithic.  It’s a laminate of countless small acts and quiet statements made in support and appreciation over the years, an aggregate of pride and love stronger than the petty forces of fate that conspire to tear it down.  The end-result is a cultivated Oneitis, wherein your mutual loyalty and support give you the personal security and belief in your marriage you need to go out and slay dragons on a daily basis. 

Twenty-three years.  It’s not impossible to marry a Western woman and still have a fulfilling life as a husband and father.  But you have to start with the right woman, carefully nurture the relationship, and avoid the sinkholes that Marriae 2.0 inevitably throws at you, and disloyalty is certainly a big one.  But . . . twenty three years.  

And from now on, she’ll be in my life more than she’s been out of it.  That, gentlemen, is what happens when you’ve properly constructed Happily Ever After. 


  1. Congratulations to you and Mrs. Ironwood!

    As a fairly new inductee to the OMG club (10 years last October) and a fairly young man (36), I find your blog a source inspiration and hope.

    My marriage is in a better place from the last few years of reading your and some other key red pill / manosphere blogs and books.

    Thank you and please keep up the great work.

    Best Regards,

    1. It’s no secret that a man’s ego has a powerful pull on him.

      In fact this hardwired need to impress and to WIN is so deeply embedded into the male mind...

      That nearly everything a man truly desires is based around this biological “drive” to prove, succeed and to win.

      It’s why so many men become workaholics, gym junkies or become obsessed with their hobbies.

      But what most women don’t know... how deeply this “drive” is connected to his love, desire, and attraction for the woman in his life.

      And I’m about to show you how you can “tap into” a man’s ege to refocus that same drive and gut level obsession...

      ...on pleasing you, romancing you, and proving his love for you like you’re his sole purpose in life.

      Here’s how: ==> The “Go Ahead” Signal That Makes Him Obsessed With Winning Your Love


      P.S. When you tap into a man’s ego this way, you can cause him to literally become obsessed with proving his love for you. So please don’t use this on a man unless you are ready for something serious.

      Thanks again.

  2. Best wishes for another 23. In a very unexpected context (founder of UK men's rights political party) ran across this practical gem: "Should We Stay Together?" by Jeffry Larson. Be curious if you see anything you would counsel against. I want my children to read it.

  3. Congratulations! You are a lucky man.

  4. But Mr. Ironwood, why can't BOTH of you go out and slay dragons? One of the reasons why us gals disdain the old "traditional gender roles are noble and worthy" is that men seem to get to do all the fun stuff. "Honey, I may have saved the world today and received the praise of millions of people, but you're the REAL hero. Look at how clean the bathroom is!"

    1. If she can slay her own dragons, why does she need me? Convenience? Utility? Cost-effectiveness? Perhaps my woman can slay dragons. Why would I find that attractive? If she's as good at slaying dragons as I am, she might be a great business partner in the dragon-slaying business, but how does that translate to "good wife and mother"? While I'm not saying the two are mutually exclusive, conflating an expertise in dragonslaying with the very-different skillset involved in maintaining a steadfast and secure LTR is one of the curses of feminism on young women today. While they, themselves, are no-doubt highly attracted to good dragon-slaying men, they mistakenly believe that men are equally attracted to dragonslaying skills. So they talk about what a great dragonslayer they are in the hopes of gaining respect and admiration. Meanwhile the men in question are wondering why they would want to spend their domestic lives perpetually in competition with a fellow dragonslayer, and quietly move along to a woman who does, indeed, actually NEED a dragonslayer in her life and is happy to do what needs to be done to support him in his dragonslaying which, after all, puts food on the table for them both. The man, happier to be needed than competed with, finds he does a much better job dragonslaying because he feels he has real, fundamental support in his woman, not a fellow colleague to whom he must be, by tradition or ideology, deferential. His dragonslayer-needing wife allows him the room to explore new dimensions in dragonslaying, becoming a better dragonslayer as well as being ever-more useful to his wife. To her he has real value. To him she has real value.

      Meanwhile Ms. Dragonslayer is turning 40 and wondering why no one is asking her to the Dragonslayers' Ball anymore. Has she not excelled at dragonslaying? Does that not entitle her to a husband? Where are all the REAL dragonslaying men? Can't they see that a life as her sidekick is so much better than success dragonslaying on their own? Why would any decent dragonslayer (though not as good as her, naturally) not want to live his life in her shadow? Surely her own glory as a dragonslayer will impart a little residual glory on her sidekick? Why are the really good dragonslayers all married already, or banging pretty young village girls when they SHOULD be willing to lavish that attention on me, because - WHERE THE HELL IS EVERYONE?

      Sorry that men seem to get to do all the "fun stuff" (much of which, like dragonslaying, gets us killed with stunning regularity) but that's the masculine prerogative. Make no mistake - we can admire a good dragonslayer of either gender, in a professional capacity. But the masculine attracts the feminine and the feminine attracts the masculine, and until there is a feminine way to kill a dragon you can bet that dragonslaying is going to remain a skill to be admired by men - but not wedded to. Not if he's smart.

      Because the day will come when Ms. Dragonslayer decides that she "deserves" better than Mr. Dragonslayer, who, after all, can't even slay dragons as well as she can, and starts looking around for a better match. Or at least a hot weekend away with a REAL dragonslayer. That's what a dragonslaying dude has to look forward to with a dragonslaying damsel.

      There's just no future in it.

  5. Oh, God. Your reply's so long, and I'm so Goddamn tired, and....No. You know what? You've been kind enough in the past to read MY comments through, and I'm going to be a gentlelady and extend you the same courtesy.
    Firstly, though, I think that you took that dragonslaying metaphor WAY too far. In all fairness, however, I started that, so I can't lay all the blame on you.
    Also, I didn't mean my poorly-handled allegory to be taken as a manifesto for gender dominance-male or female. I meant absolute, total equality. Not just a married couple, but a TEAM. A team in which all tasks are shared, with no thought as to which sex "should" perform those roles.
    Consider yourself. You say in the above article that you would have gladly raised your wife's children for the first few years of their lives. Is that not a "traditional" female role? Yet you approached the idea with admirable chivalry, and, when I read it, I thought to myself, "Maybe I'm not giving this guy enough credit." That's what I meant in my first comment-that a husband and wife (or indeed husband and husband, or wife and wife) should help one another and maintain equilibrium. Like emperor penguins, if you will. Note how the female lays the egg, then gives it to the father to incubate and goes to catch fish for the baby. Then, when she comes back, she takes over the rearing of the chick and the hungry father can go get some food.
    P.S. Your above view that your crush on Karen and your "Betahood" kept you from responding in kind to her rudeness is wrong. That wasn't weakness on your part; that was being polite and sociable, and I, as one who has no grasp of either of those concepts, applaud you for it. Taking the snark bait is one of three big reasons why I can never return to Alabama.

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