tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4514791571109198162.post7356779434850741801..comments2024-03-27T17:13:17.767-04:00Comments on The Red Pill Room: Wife Test: Intelligent Women Pick Winners. "Smart Women" Mutiny or Abandon ShipIan Ironwoodhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09776355241706284910noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4514791571109198162.post-19286810228340797892014-12-11T08:45:05.719-05:002014-12-11T08:45:05.719-05:00Thus proving that proper mate selection and vettin...Thus proving that proper mate selection and vetting BEFORE a commitment is essential to long-term happiness.Ian Ironwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09776355241706284910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4514791571109198162.post-65266497263749173902014-12-08T18:55:44.688-05:002014-12-08T18:55:44.688-05:00I would like to offer the observation that it is v...I would like to offer the observation that it is very easy to slip into what one could call a controlling and nagging woman if the confidence has been breached one too many times. Case in point -- husband takes care of all finances. Four years into marriage, wife is seven months' pregnant and has a two year old and a one year old, suddenly gets phone call from collection agency regarding bill from the two year old's birth which was never paid. She kept asking her husband for the insurance card at that time, he said he would take care of it, so she dropped the issue and left it up to him. Now it is coming back to haunt her. Apparently there was no insurance. <br /><br />Wife later discovers, in the midst of calls from collection agency, that there is a $5,000 unpaid Visa bill. She had absolutely no idea. In addition, husband, who has had a slight drinking problem in the past, and wife has always felt guilty about it, assuming his drinking was her fault, has continued drinking.<br /><br />Wife finally takes matters into her own hands, paying all the bills, takes part time job, finally gets angry that husband drinks and gets quite angry when any alcohol comes into the house. She starts to get visibly agitated when she sees beer or wine in the house. Husband accuses her of nagging and often swears. He accuses her of ripping him off when he sees checks being written and bills paid. She arranges payment plan on her own after baby's birth, after going through insurance policy with fine-tooth comb to get it down to the last dollar. Husband insists she is robbing him blind. Every effort on her part to explain the details of their medical insurance goes unnoticed on his part.<br /><br />Bills are there; wife juggles, sells some of her own valuables to make possible a course husband is taking without accruing unnecessary debt. Wife learns through several painful experiences that when husband sees a bill he decides to nag her to death about how she is driving him to the poorhouse. Wife decides she has enough stress on her plate without listening to him, so she just files all bills and pays them all before he sees them. This enrages him. She says she will not discuss the bills with him unless a third party is present and he starts going to A.A. or any counseling of his choice.<br /><br />Long comment, and I'm sorry. But there are some "nagging, bossy" women out there who started out quite the opposite determined to make their marriages a success. They had to come between their families and ruin. <br /><br />Posting anonymously because I wish to protect my identity. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4514791571109198162.post-20102636342930192032014-04-25T15:46:46.834-04:002014-04-25T15:46:46.834-04:00We're okay with smart women. We just don't...We're okay with smart women. We just don't like rebellious harridans.Jimnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4514791571109198162.post-74422415989197076522014-03-11T14:45:46.001-04:002014-03-11T14:45:46.001-04:00Awww . . . someone didn't pick a winner. Don&...Awww . . . someone didn't pick a winner. Don't worry, Cupcake, I'm sure The One will appear shortly . . . because you DESERVE it.Ian Ironwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09776355241706284910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4514791571109198162.post-14765606022627438912014-03-10T23:23:21.040-04:002014-03-10T23:23:21.040-04:00Hey, just wanted to drop you a quick note to let y...Hey, just wanted to drop you a quick note to let you know that you are a fucking asshole! Hate everything you stand for! Go fuck a hornets' nest. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4514791571109198162.post-27032628808042012602014-03-04T14:10:41.305-05:002014-03-04T14:10:41.305-05:00"It's not a matter of intimidation, it..."It's not a matter of intimidation, it's a matter of knowing that the woman you're seeing just isn't going to have time enough for you and a relationship, much less a family." --> This might a problem to some, but are you sure that men in their 30s aren't stressed over the prospect that they have to take care of everything? Is it morally right for a female to expect someone else to take responsibility? I know some cases where the male has dumped a girlfriend partly because she had these expectations. Abandoning career is quite unnecessary in this light. I honestly think it's not a that big of an issue for men anymore. And in many cases, activities outside home guarantee peace at home. <br /><br />"And if you're married and want your husband to keep a firm hand on the wheel, stop trying to rip it out from his fingers."--> Surprisingly, I get what you're saying. If one has married a traditionalist, then I understand why it is confusing if the wife suddenly transforms into controlling and nagging monster. From a female perspective, that's just classic. That's not modern phenomenon, I bet that just is the way it often is and has been. My perceptions have no scientific validity, but here we go: Women who appreciate traditions (e.g. man is the head of the family) are often good organizers, they keep things going, but they also have a higher tendency to be control freaks. I mean strong people often have strong ideals either pro career or pro family, but most of time that is just talk, and does not change core personality and personal habits. <br /><br /><br />My guess is that "red pill" female species will remain rare, because it hasn't ever existed apart from dreams. Admittedly, few have realized their dream. <br /><br />At its core: <br /><br />"Had a sweet little girl, I lose my baby, boy ain't that bad<br />You can't spend what you ain't got,<br />You can't lose some little girl you ain't never had"<br /><br />High achieving males often prefer bossy women, because they get a kick out dating them. It's part of the game. No matter what people say in the midst of bitter divorce.<br /><br />To be honest, I hate dealing with most alpha females and males in real life. Control freaks & overly detail oriented/demanding people - features which I often connect with alphas. Not always but often. Dealing with them is draining and pain in the ass. Betas should rule the world, but we don't get round to it;) I like my life easy. Would you have considered Steve Jobs alpha? If yes, then that's a case in point.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4514791571109198162.post-22186196382988614392014-02-10T13:35:10.123-05:002014-02-10T13:35:10.123-05:00OUTSTANDING! Big round of applause! My experience ...OUTSTANDING! Big round of applause! My experience in your awesome words!<br />Sarge<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4514791571109198162.post-57529549117658151052014-02-10T09:16:01.828-05:002014-02-10T09:16:01.828-05:00An excellent question. Yes, vulnerability is sexy...An excellent question. Yes, vulnerability is sexy, weakness is not. The difference is subtle but important: being vulnerable means being able to admit to your partner that you are capable - and perhaps in danger - of being hurt. Weakness is admitting - and perhaps committing to - the idea that you are powerless against being hurt. Vulnerability is sexy. Weakness is despised. A man who is down can admit that he's hurting and scared without being weak. A man who insists that it's not his fault that he can't find a job, because it's the economy, the government, the (insert ethnic/cultural group here) who are keeping him down . . . that's weakness. <br /><br />Owning your shit but admitting being scared: sexy.<br />Blaming your shit on everything else and refusing to work to improve your situation:weak and non-sexy.<br /><br />Like I said, good question.Ian Ironwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09776355241706284910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4514791571109198162.post-73533995290307343272014-02-09T18:47:17.900-05:002014-02-09T18:47:17.900-05:00Whoooo-eeee. It is pretty terrifying letting go of...Whoooo-eeee. It is pretty terrifying letting go of the reigns, especially when things aren't going well. That vulnerability, though, is so important to maintaining connection.Doesn't make it any less scary. There will definitely be a fair amount of husband vetting on my part, too.<br /><br />Do you think vulnerability (not weakness, that's different) makes a woman attractive? Or is it irrelevant in terms of attraction, and only considered after a man has decided to initiate the wife-vetting process?Meggrznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4514791571109198162.post-28899926171203255452014-02-08T08:13:16.171-05:002014-02-08T08:13:16.171-05:00This is the problem with trying to apply Athol Kay...This is the problem with trying to apply Athol Kay's captain/first officer model. Most women have been led to believe "first officer = shithouse coolie" and so the model they aspire to is "captain/mutineer" or "captain/hijacker".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4514791571109198162.post-76175162708027725982014-02-05T20:27:03.635-05:002014-02-05T20:27:03.635-05:00This is an interesting counterpoint to RPW's r...This is an interesting counterpoint to RPW's recent post dealing with a similar situation with her husband:<br />http://redpillwifery.wordpress.com/2014/01/26/stuff-and-stuff/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4514791571109198162.post-29011814500201346562014-02-05T17:14:26.104-05:002014-02-05T17:14:26.104-05:00That's a question that goes through my mind, a...That's a question that goes through my mind, as a still single man, a few months into a new relationship. It's always no. I could not live with this woman for even a month. I try to keep it going but, it's never turned out worth it. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4514791571109198162.post-65409044686683262082014-02-05T16:12:39.001-05:002014-02-05T16:12:39.001-05:00Mine took off with my business partner who had oth...Mine took off with my business partner who had other interests, a family golf course. She was focused on his money, then him, then her career, and then mayber her children. 16 years on, I am that millionaire, her guy threw her to the curb 3 days before common law vesting, and she is now stuck with a nice guy, but that is all he is. Oh, I do love my motorcycle, boats and very nice truck. And the investments just keep on adding up. She has to wait for her inheritance to make a move, but that is still a long way off, and she has to share it. My ship has gold toilets, hers are compost heaps.cdwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14530439219110335962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4514791571109198162.post-91849993497871910162014-02-05T15:04:41.774-05:002014-02-05T15:04:41.774-05:00Be a truly intelligent woman will understand that ...<b>Be a truly intelligent woman will understand that she picked a winner and stick with him, and help him fix the damn boat.<br /><br />And they don't give diplomas for that.</b><br /><br />Man, you hit one OUT of the park here!MarkyMarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02710045100037253902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4514791571109198162.post-16864223089777209972014-02-05T14:14:14.876-05:002014-02-05T14:14:14.876-05:00My ex-wife is seeing that last paragraph unfold be...My ex-wife is seeing that last paragraph unfold before her now. Sucks to be her.<br /><br />Problem is, she is STILL listening to her never-married, extremely post-wall confidant who undoubtedly encouraged her toward those mythical "greener pastures" in the first place.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com